Xbox One: 12 reasons why you shouldn’t get carried away by PS4 hype

By Dom Sacco | June 15th, 2013

Xbox One and PS4 hype

It’s fair to say PlayStation 4 captured gamers’ hearts and minds at E3 2013 last week with its lower price, pro used games stance and no 24-hour online check-in requirement (see this Amazon/Facebook poll for proof).

But let’s not write off the Xbox One too soon. Here are 12 reasons why you shouldn’t get carried away by the hype surrounding PS4.

UPDATE: This is an opinion article – do not read on if you’re expecting a fact-based news-style piece. 

UPDATE 2: Like I stated in point 12, Xbox One’s features were subject to change. Microsoft has now scrapped its online restrictions and used game requirements for Xbox One.

Don’t get us wrong – the Sony conference at E3 was excellent, and we’re not denying the PS4 is an impressive piece of kit. We own both the 360 and PS3 and are not biased towards one or the other; we just feel that by getting caught up in all the used game hoo-hah, some of the Xbox One’s core selling points are being overlooked.

1. Xbox One DOES let you trade games in

Microsoft not handling the used games debate particularly well with Xbox One has caused a gamer uproar. But let’s be clear about this.

You can still buy, sell and trade second-hand boxed games as usual, but it’ll be up to publishers (like EA, Activision and Ubisoft) whether you can do this with their games.

Trade-ins can only be made at ‘participating retailers’. While it’s a shame this may exclude sites like eBay and Play.com, you can bet your bottom pound that national store chain GAME will be one of those participating retailers; it’s likely others such as HMV and supermarkets will be, too. Time will tell.

You’ll also be able to buy new game discs from stores – or download a digital version from your console – on release day. So if EA doesn’t allow you to trade in Battlefield 4, chances are you will have downloaded it new anyway, and so you may not even own a disc to re-sell.

2. PS4 may require an online connection too

We’re not saying that Xbox One initially requiring users to have access to the internet once every 24 hours is a good thing, but we are asking – is it really that bad?

Sure, if your internet goes down for more than a day, you’re not going to be happy. But don’t think that the PS4 will be the immediate solution to this problem. It doesn’t matter now anyway – Xbox One has scrapped its initial 24-hour policy.

When Sony said during its E3 2013 conference that the PS4 wouldn’t require at least one online check-in every 24 hours, or a constant internet connection, it meant so for its first-party games and the console itself.

Third-party publishers are free to come up with their own Digital Rights Management (DRM) for PS4. For example, Activision’s Destiny requires a constant internet connection. So the PS4 system doesn’t require the internet to work, but certain games will. And we’re pretty sure those annoying security updates for PS3 won’t be going away on PS4 (the ones that won’t let you play a game until you’ve downloaded them). So, you will need the internet for PS4, just in a different way.

And speaking of security…

3. You can’t predict problems

From the Xbox 360′s red ring of death to the PS3 hack that saw user’s personal data at risk, one thing we’ve learnt from consoles is that unexpected problems can happen.

Siding with or buying one platform too early may not be wise; reading reviews and spotting the bugs first may help you better decide which console to purchase.

Our point is, neither Sony or Microsoft are infallible, but if we had to choose between a hardware inconvenience and identity theft, we’d opt for the former.

4. Game ownership

Do you think you own your PS3 games? Will you truly ‘own’ that copy of Killzone on your PlayStation 4? Think again.

Let us refer you to Sony’s own PS3 licensing agreement online: “You do not have any ownership rights or interests in the [PS3/PS4] System Software. All intellectual property rights therein belong to SCE and its licensors, and all use or access to such System Software shall be subject to the terms of this Agreement and all applicable copyright and intellectual property laws. Except as expressly granted in this Agreement, SCE and its licensors reserve all rights, interests and remedies.”

Another part states: “You may not resell Game Software unless expressly authorised by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe. Resale and rental are prohibited unless expressly authorised by SCEE.”

Basically, Sony owns the game; you have the permission to play it. Perhaps this will be the same for PS4?

This has been the case for years. In World of Warcraft, you don’t own your characters, or any of their accessories. You don’t own their traits, skills, achievements or weapons. You don’t even own their appearance or styling – even if you created it. Blizzard owns all of that. You simply pay Blizzard to let you access that content.

One would assume retailers like GAME have permission to resell PS3 and PS4 games. And you would assume Microsoft will also give them that permission for Xbox One (as long as the game publisher agrees to it).

Now, let’s look at an Xbox 360 game box.

“Unauthorised copying, reverse engineering, transmission, public performance, rental, pay for play or circumvention of copy protection is strictly prohibited.”

There’s no mention of reselling here.

Anyway, let’s stop being pedantic for a second. Xbox One works by letting you install a game to the console’s hard drive. You then own that version of the game and have access to it from ‘the cloud’, regardless of what happens to the disc and from where you’re accessing it. Your Xbox One game library works on up to 10 systems; Sony’s works on two.

For more information on Xbox One game ownership, read this: How games licensing works on Xbox One.

5. The controller

For all the talk of online connectivity, DRM and exclusive games, one thing has been massively overlooked: the Dualshock 4 controller for PS4.

Us and the PlayStation controller have never really got along. It’s the positioning of the analogue sticks – we much prefer the less symmetrical layout of the Xbox pad (left stick higher, right stick lower), which lends itself more to fast-paced online gaming. The PS controller analogue sticks have always felt too loose, and slightly awkward to control when pressing the shoulder buttons at the same time.

The PS4 controller also looks like it’s got even longer and less wieldy than it was before, although Sony says it has finally tightened up the analogue sticks. Plus, it has a touch pad and light bar (see point 10. The features).

Call us crazier than Kim Kardashian and a crate of Kit Kats, but we’d rather pay a little more at launch and enjoy years and years of more comfortable gaming with Xbox One. Speaking of paying…

6. Price

We’d rather pay £429 for the Xbox One rather than PS4′s £349 asking price, for a number of reasons (see them listed in this article), not just for the Xbox One’s controller shape alone (obviously).

The Xbox One comes with Kinect; you’ll have to pay £44 extra if you want a PlayStation Camera for the PS4, or £54(!) if you want an additional DualShock controller. The Xbox One controller doesn’t have a price yet, though Amazon has listed it for $60. (UPDATE: Our point is not that the Xbox One is cheaper overall, because it’s not, it’s that we feel it offers better value in the long-term.)

You’ll also have to pay to play online using the PS4, just like Xbox Live. This will cost “less than $5 per month” – around the same as Microsoft’s service.

7. The games

This is arguably the most important part of all. While both machines share a lot of excellent third-party games, like Thief, Destiny and Battlefield 4, they also have their own console exclusives. Here’s our pick of ten for each.

Sony’s include Final Fantasy XIV, Knack, Killzone: Shadow Fall, Driveclub, Infamous: Second Son, The Order 1886, Daylight, Deep Down, Super Stardust HD and Planetside 2.

Microsoft’s include Halo 5, Titanfall, Quantum Break, Crimson Dragon, Forza 5, Sunset Overdrive, Ryse, Project Spark, Dead Rising 3 and Killer Instinct.

For us, Xbox One edges PS4 on the exclusives front. Quantum Break, Titanfall and Ryse look like fantastic new IPs, plus Halo and Killer Instinct will no doubt be good fun too. We will miss out on Final Fantasy XIV, though its successor, Final Fantasy XV (formerly known as Final Fantasy Versus XIII), will be available on both consoles.

8. The features

Both Xbox One and PS4 have Blu-ray drives, similar technology, and aren’t backwards compatible with Xbox 360/PS3 games respectively (UPDATE: PS4 will have access to a “limited library” of PS3 games thanks to a Gaikai streaming service – thanks James).

They also have a host of impressive features. Notable Xbox One features include:

  • Smart Match, a new online matchmaking system that gets you into online games faster. It removes lobbies and waiting times for online matches. It pairs players based on skill, language and reputation. While you wait, you can watch TV or listen to music.
  • Game DVR lets you record game footage and upload it to YouTube or Twitch – no expensive game recorders required.
  • Achievements are getting an upgrade, with a more personalised stats hub (and there’s just no comparison between Xbox Achievements and PSN Trophies).
  • Xbox Live – the platform alone is enough to make us want to stick with Microsoft; it’s still miles better than PSN
  • Snap mode lets you flick between games, TV and music instantly. While that doesn’t seem amazing, it means you can use Skype to talk to a group of friends at once while playing a game (meaning you can talk to others who don’t have an Xbox).

For PS4, there’s the following:

  • You can share portions of game footage with other users, which can be uploaded as you play
  • Gaikai lets you stream PS4 games to PS Vita
  • PS4 has a sudden sleep mode, like the 3DS, that lets you pause play and immediately resume whenever you like.
  • The console is not region-locked
  • The PS4 controller’s light bar can be tracked by the console, which, depending on where you are in the room, can reorganise the size of your split-screen to be closer to your position.

We couldn’t find so many great features for the PS4. But hey, PS4 buyers, it’s okay. You’re finally going to get a headset out of the box and cross-game chat. Eight years after Xbox 360 made it commonplace. (UPDATE: The irony is, Xbox One will not include a headset out of the box. Thanks to LKennedy for pointing that out).

9. Xbox will be out earlier (probably)

It hits shelves in November; The PS4 is out “this holiday season”, which could mean anything from October (unlikely) to a few weeks before Christmas.

We still love getting new games as early as possible – and having the first next-gen console around one month before the other is good enough for us.

10. Getting DLC first

From Call of Duty to Skyrim and Grand Theft Auto, Xbox 360 still offers new downloadable content to its users months before PS3 players. You can expect this to continue on Xbox One.

Owning a PS4 and having to wait potentially several months for the next add-on pack in COD: Ghosts or other triple-A blockbuster in the future? That’s not for us, thanks.

11. Big Brother is not watching you

The Kinect voice and camera sensor may need to be switched on for Xbox One to work, but you can leave it in a ‘pause’ state where it won’t listen to you.

When Xbox One is on and you have a conversation in your living room, it won’t be recorded or uploaded.  When the system turns off, it’ll only listen out for “Xbox On,” and you can turn that off too.

Plus, personal data like videos, photos, facial expressions and heart rates won’t be shared without your permission. Read more info on Xbox One’s privacy details here.

12. It’s all subject to change, anyway

Microsoft has said the features and requirements of Xbox One “are under development and may change prior to release”.

“In the months ahead, we will continue to listen to your feedback as we meet with our partners in the ecosystem to bring additional detail about our policies,” read a statement.

So the controversial used game and online policies could change.

As many football club supporters say, keep the faith. Overall, Microsoft hasn’t let us down with the Xbox and Xbox 360 – and we expect it won’t do with the Xbox One either. The company is far too corporate, experienced and affluent to let one of its gaming systems fail.

We’ll leave you with a question.

Do you want the Mercedes with a lower price tag, a faster engine, better fuel economy and resale value? Or do you want the slightly more expensive Aston Martin that isn’t as keen on letting your friends drive it, but has better in-car features and more driver enjoyment in the longer term?

We’ve made our choice.

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91 comments ↓

#1 Wololo on 06.15.13 at 6:50 pm

That is some pretty hardcore fanboyism.

#2 Kamille Bidan on 06.15.13 at 6:56 pm

spin it like a record, Xbox One is dead in the water. ;)

#3 Albert on 06.15.13 at 6:56 pm

I entered this page willing to read some facts about XBOX One and PS4, not an opinion and I’m a bit disappointed:
1 – Sony allow you to trade games too, it’s just easier.
2 – PS4 –>MAY<– require online access too. With XBOX One you must have it. Always. So I can't play with it in my summerhouse. Great.
3&4 – Yes, I'm aware of that, something every console has.
5 – That's just an opinion, I always preferred the symmetric analogs among other things.
6 – I won't pay more even if I liked the XBOX controller more, I don't want kinnect at all to play the games and PS4+camera is still cheaper.
7 – I must agree, XBOX's exclusive games sound better.
8 – Both consoles have awesome features and I don't consider XBOX ones better.
9 – I don't consider that an advantage for the consumers, it's just a marketing strategy. I will write a sincere apology if they release it without errors and other troubles.
10 – That would be a big advantage, if it were true. They didn't say anything about it and I don't see why they wouldn't give some good news for a change.
11 – Permission that some games and software will force you to accept in order to use them, and let's face it, nobody read the terms and conditions.
12 – OF COURSE it's all subject to change. We learn from our errors, let's see if they did.

#4 Rusty Shackleford on 06.15.13 at 7:10 pm

Thanks Microsoft for telling me how your system is not a spying device. I’m glad to be convinced by such a fair and balanced, no spin network that the Xbox One is not only flawed like most intend it to be, but in reality much better than the Ps4 by someone who has allegedly not played either.

#5 SwankTribal11 on 06.15.13 at 7:49 pm

I’ll be buying an Xbox One, I think time will tell and the Xbox will prevail. The lay out of the controller is a key point, I’ve always struggled with the PS controller. The big point, games, and personally I preferred the XBox One exclusives.

#6 Mallikite on 06.16.13 at 1:20 am

Dang, I’m just disappointed in Microsoft,

I loved the 360, but after what I have learned,

there’s no way I can support them any longer,

#7 Cathrine on 06.16.13 at 1:23 am

Its just a shame really,

about all the xbox restrictions

As someone who regularly brings their 360 to a house without internet (grandmothers), there is no doubt at this point that I will be buying a PS4

#8 Zannyties on 06.16.13 at 1:25 am

As a member of the U.S. army, I don’t think I will be buying a Xbox One. Why is it that I can’t bring my Xbox overseas with me, without it checking up every 24 hours?
Loved playing split screen Halo with fellow troops, but I think we will be playing split screen Killzone, from hear on out.

#9 Axe99 on 06.16.13 at 2:06 am

Some good points and a lot of denial going on here – but to be expected given the bitter pill MS fans have had to swallow. Unfortunately, trying to describe the lower-spec, higher cost and less flexible piece of kit as the luxury car is out-and-out deceitful. The graphics card in the PS4 is estimated by tech experts (Digital Foundry, Anandtech) as 50% more powerful than that in the XB1, and the GDDR5 advantages are well documented. From a gamer’s perspective, it’s the choice between a $500 multi-purpose entertainment device, and a $400, better-performing gaming device. Both are great pieces of kit, but as a gamer it’s clear which way I’ll be going.

I also take issue with the controller comparison – it’s a case of personal preference, and while you may have only ever spent time with the 360′s assymetric sticks, you can get just as much performance out of a symmetric stick set up. It may come as a surprise, but our hands and arms are broadly symmetrical – an assymetric stick layout on a controller means either holding the controller at an angle, or sitting with the arms bent slightly assymetrically. Fine if you want to, but I personally find the PS4 pad far more comfortable (both are adequate, 360 d-pad notwithstanding, but fortunately that’s fixed for the XB1).

#10 dumbass on 06.16.13 at 2:13 am

I disagree with a few things in reason 2 the ps4 will download those security updates in the background and just because some games are completely online doesn’t mean that everyone will want to play those games and as stated before now everyone has internet in reason 4 who care about legal terminology I will still be able to do as i please with my physical games and not have to look up some rules if i want to lend it out and finally like most of this article is based on opinion so is the fact that you do not know when the ps4 will be released

#11 HammadTheBeast on 06.16.13 at 2:21 am

Quite possibly the stupidest article I’ve read in a while. Half of your “facts” are pulled out of your ass, the rest are so skewed with fanboyism its ridiculous. Xbox controller will also cost $59, PS Eye + PS4 is still less than $500.

#12 SONY on 06.16.13 at 2:36 am

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BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE SPECTACULAR ASIAN, LIKE KAZ HIRAI, THE FATHER OF CONSOLE GAMING.

HAIL SONY!

4> One.

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#13 Kryptix on 06.16.13 at 2:53 am

Haven’t seen a lot of denial like this in any other opinion article. The controller is all preference, both controllers feel comfortable to me. Reason number one about trading games is the same reason why you can’t let your friends borrow games freely. Sony game ownership means you don’t have permission to mess with the code and modify it because Sony owns it. It’s directed to hackers. Let’s be honest, you’re hurt because Microst butchered up the Xbox brand. How you see it, you want people to see other products be the same way. It’s ok for you because Microsoft did it. Denial.

#14 foxhound56 on 06.16.13 at 3:06 am

wow… destiny requires internet connection….

THAT is why is called an MMO.. it is supposed to be connected to play ONLINE… fanboy

#15 John on 06.16.13 at 4:40 am

This really is fanboyism. You don’t even know what your talking about.

1. Being able to only buy, sell, or trade second-hand games at ‘‘participating retailers’ is just the problem. For example, this means it will be a much less competitive marketplace, devaluing the games. Also, third-party publishers can set up business terms or transfer fees with retailers, or block used games altogether on a ‘hardware’ level; also devaluing the games. So, really, no matter how you look at it, this is not a good thing by any means.

2. If third-party publishers want to shoot themselves in the foot with online passes or an always online game, then let them. At least on the PS4 you’ll be able to play the majority of the games offline.

3. Microsoft is just as vulnerable to cyber attacks. And they are well known for both shitty hardware and software. They even released the Xbox 360 knowing it had over-heating issues. I had to get mine replaced several times, over the course of just a couple years. Also, the Xbox One console is bigger for a reason; larger and cheaper parts, more prone to over-heating. There’s even rumors it’s already overheating and having yeilding issues. Oh, and not to mention, it’s up to 50% less powerful then a PS4.

4. They are only talking about the software code on the disk, not the disk itself. Even Sony had stated this recently in multible interviews. Most country’s have laws governing physical objects, giving you the right to do as you please with them, and that no one shall interfere.

5. Xbox 360 controllers don’t last very long without problems becoming appearent. All 3 of my controllers developed issues with each of the analog sticks, not to mention the other problems. And there are already reports of problems with the new Xbox One controllers, while everyone is praising the new PS4 Dualshock 4 controller.

6. You do know it’s actually cheaper to buy a PS4 and the Camera separately, then it is to buy an Xbox One with the Kinect bundled together, don’t you? And there is way more value with the PS+ membership then an Xbox LIVE Gold membership, right?

7. The last generation speaks for itself; PS4 dominated with their exclusives. No question about it. Much of what Microsoft showed was not gameplay, and not set to be released within even the launch window, a timed-exclusive, and just more shooters. While Sony has more studios, set to release more games, many of which had yet to be annouced.

8. PS4 will have all of that and then some, except for snap mode which no one will even really use. And PSN is being upgraded, you know.

9. Says who? If anything, everything points to the PS4 being ahead in development. The games at E3 were actually running on DEV kits, and there’s even that rumor that Microsoft may be up to 6 months behind in development of their hardware and software titles.

10. You can’t just wait to get access to the timed-exclusive DLC for another Call of Duty title? You know that game has lag compensation cranked extremely high, right? And Playstation is getting timed-exclusive DLC for other games, such as Destiny.

11. Now your just being ignorant. PRISM is just the beginning.

12. Well of course! And Microsoft has already been backpedaling extensively with it’s policies.

By the way, I am definitely not a fanboy and been playing entirely on an Xbox 360 this generation due to money being so tight.

#16 ShwankyShpanky on 06.16.13 at 5:18 am

“Plus, personal data like videos, photos, facial expressions and heart rates won’t be shared without your permission.”

Odd that those pretty words don’t really mesh with the CURRENT EULA for the 360 w/ Kinect:

The current XBL EULA includes the following. Keep in mind that the term “Services” will cover a much broader spectrum with the One.

“If you use … Kinect, we may also collect data about the way in which you interact with the console and the Services to improve Microsoft products and services.”

…and this:

“Personal information collected by Microsoft may be stored and processed in the United States or any other country or region in which Microsoft or its affiliates, subsidiaries, or service providers maintain facilities. You consent to any such transfer of information outside of your country or region.”

…and of course:

“we may access or disclose information about you, including the content of your communications, in order to: (a) comply with the law or respond to lawful requests or legal process; (b) protect the rights or property of Microsoft or our customers, including the enforcement of our agreements or policies governing your use of the Services; and (c) act on a good faith belief that such access or disclosure is necessary to protect the personal safety of Microsoft employees, customers, or the public.”

All of these terms subject to the interpretation of MS/govt lawyers. And with the “always on,” this can be easily abused. “Oh, we thought you might be doing something against our EULA, so we checked to see if there was any audio or video from the Kinect that was related to that.” “Oh, the Feds saw you buying supplies for your indoor veggie garden at the hydroponics store, so they ‘lawfully requested’ that we check if there was any audio or video related to that.”

P.S.
Kansas Couple: Indoor Gardening Prompted Pot Raid
http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2013/03/29/kansas-couple-indoor-gardening-prompted-pot-raid/

The FBI Seeks Overbroad Expansion of Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act
http://www.gamepolitics.com/2013/05/24/fbi-seeks-overbroad-expansion-communications-assistance-law-enforcement-act#.UaZZPUrTBkM

#17 Justin on 06.16.13 at 5:38 am

Always bitching about the damn controller. Is it really that hard for xbox fans to move their thumb a half an inch down? Besides, I like a functional d-pad, not that crappy little button on the Xbox controller

#18 assdan on 06.16.13 at 6:47 am

I’m just going to end say two things. Half of the crap you said is wrong if yo watched E3. Your other problem is people are actually saying the controller for the ps4 is better.

#19 XBone on 06.16.13 at 6:52 am

One of the most r*tarded articles I have ever read

#20 James on 06.16.13 at 8:01 am

While you make a valiant effort to defend the Xbox One, I have to disagree with your points:

1. Whether or not you can trade in Xbox One games is up to the publisher and why would a publisher like EA allow used game sales when they have been fighting against them for years with online passes? Dropping them now is just an indication that they plan to restrict or limit used games sales in the future.
2. The PS4 will not require an online connection unless you are playing a game that is multiplayer only like Destiny, Planetside 2, or any MMO game. Sony made it clear that any single player game could be played without ever checking in online. PS3 games only require downloadable patches to play if you choose to be connected to the internet. The issue with 24-hour DRM on the Xbox One is not just that it makes games require an internet connection, but that it is preparing Xbox owners for an always online future because eventually the Xbox One will rely on Cloud Computing to offload and process data for all games as Microsoft’s solution to future-proofing as the hardware ages. Eventually the Xbox One will be always online.
3. While we can’t predict problems with either console, Microsoft does has a history of hardware and heating problems. Playstation has learned their lesson and upgraded their security to prevent potential future hacks.
4. While Playstation owners do not technically own their games, their license to play their games is tied to the disk just like it is now with the Xbox 360 and PS3. What the Xbox One is doing is transferring that license from the disk to your online account which means if your account gets stolen, hacked, or possibly banned, you lose access to your entire game library. If Microsoft’s servers go down because of maintenance or hacking, your games would be unplayable. Am I just renting a game for 20 years until they shut down the Xbox One servers or can I play it irrespective of what Sony or Microsoft does in the future?
5. Which controller you like better is a matter of personal preference. Neither of us have tried out either next-gen controllers, but from what I hear, both are great. There will be 3rd party controllers and adapters that allow Xbox controllers to work on PS4 like the Cross-Battle Adapter does now.
6. How many people who want to buy the Xbox One actually want to use Kinect? PS+ is not the same as Xbox Live Gold though both will be required for multiplayer next-gen. You get free games every month with PS+ and deep discounts on almost every other title.
7. Titanfall is also coming to PC and Xbox 360 and we haven’t seen any gameplay from Quantum Break or Sunset Overdrive apart from in-game cutscenes. While Ryse looks good, it is just one QTE after another. We have not seen any gameplay from Halo 5 or multiplayer info and Double Helix, the developer behind Killer Instinct, has a terrible track record.
8. PS4 will be backwards compatible with PS3 games through Cloud Streaming coming in 2014 unlike Microsoft which has no plans for BC. PSN is only going to get better because Sony will have more money to upgrade their servers with all that PS+ money.
9. While the Xbox One will likely release earlier than the PS4, the Xbox One is running into supply problems and will likely be sold out long before the console releases while the PS4 will still be available because of its easier to produce architecture with unified memory. It won’t matter if it gets to the market first if it is sold out while its competitor is still available with a lower price. The Xbox One is also region-locked unlike the PS4 so many countries will not have access to it anyway: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=576869
10. The DLC for COD and Battlefield is only one month ahead for Xbox Live not “several months” as you put it. Playstation also gets exclusive content for Destiny and Assassin’s Creed.
11. Microsoft has filed a patent that allows the Kinect to charge users for violating licenses related to Netflix and could be used as a form of visual DRM. Kinect sensory data is a marketer’s dream come true which would allow for personalized ads and detailed demographic info for companies to see who is watching or playing what. This is one reason why Kinect is required.
http://kotaku.com/5958307/this-kinect-patent-is-terrifying-wants-to-charge-you-for-license-violation
12. Sony is not about to change their policies on not requiring an internet connection or blocking used games. To do so would be to give up a huge advantage over Microsoft. Microsoft cannot go back from an always online future because that is the only way to allow used game sales if the game is tied to your account and Cloud Computing is Microsoft’s plan for future-proofing.

#21 Shawn on 06.16.13 at 8:02 am

Ps fanboys are butthurt i will get both consoles but the xb1 is once again blazing the path for the future generation of console gaming.. How many friends do u honestly let borrow your games? Well with the xb1 i can let u borrow a game digitally wow. Don’t have internet well ok when it is time for the 24 hr check in just do the kb check in tethered off of your smart phone will take about 1 min.. Like i said i will have both consoles but i like the way the xb1 is basically creating a steam platform for consoles and you will reap the benefits by next xmas just wait and see …

#22 JFASH on 06.16.13 at 8:37 am

When all you can do is smile cos u know more………………………..

#23 Human on 06.16.13 at 8:44 am

How much did you get OP?

#24 Axe99 on 06.16.13 at 8:44 am

@ Shawn – funny old comment when the PSN is already more like Steam than XBL. I’m on all three – Steam’s in the lead, PSN’s a couple of years behind and XBL another year or so behind that. They’ll all get there, but right now the only thing I’m really happy about is that there’s competition in the console industry – if there wasn’t anything to keep MS honest, I shudder what to think they’d have done.

#25 Trv on 06.16.13 at 9:37 am

Your article is skewed. Look at what you are saying.

#26 LKennedy on 06.16.13 at 9:41 am

I love the comment that indicates that “Ps4 finally gets a headset- 8 years after Xbox made it commonplace”. Did you not read the memo? XBone will not be shipping with an included headset.

Also I agree you had some good comments, but this article is ruined by fanboyism.

#27 jimmy on 06.16.13 at 10:38 am

1.This is true, but its very unlikely that publishers will except free trading and selling of their games, especially when MS has already built an infrastructure for them to gain more.
2.True, but this only applies to MMO games not hardware which is whats applicable today. MS have built a very restrictive console which requires an internet connection just to even be able to play it OFFLINE.
3.I totally agree with this point, but it is worth remembering that Sony operated on a FREE service which meant they had to limit their costs. With the PS4 paying model they will be able to provide a much more secure service with dedicated fast servers. Sony aren’t stupid and have probably learnt from their mistakes.
4. Im on the fence with this one, Sony have stated numerous times PUBLICLY that gamers will own their games and do with it as they want. They have also built most of their advertising campaign around this fact. I personally don’t see Sony say out of the blue that gamers don’t actually own their games we do.
5.This is personal preference
6.The PS4 + camera is still cheaper
7.Although MS lineup seems more enticing Sony did say that they will launch their PS4 with 20 Excl within the first year.
8.There is up to preference again but PS4 does have more features then whats listed.
9.This is pure speculation at this point
10.Sony showed more Excl content plus PS+ its likely they will have more funds to push forward more DLC.
11. Thats funny
12. Totally agree

#28 Simon on 06.16.13 at 11:29 am

Number four is wholly incorrect.
The link you gave relates only to firmware on the PS3 system. Not games on the PS4 system.
“This Agreement applies to any system software or firmware included in the PS3™ system”

What it is saying is you can’t sell their system updates, which is fair enough because they’re available free.

#29 Panos Lennon on 06.16.13 at 12:10 pm

Suck a ridiculous article..FANBOYS NEVER DIE xD

#30 Dom Sacco on 06.16.13 at 12:21 pm

Thanks for your comments guys – good and bad.

I have updated the intro to reflect this is an opinion article, it wasn’t meant to come across as a fact-based news-style piece.

Like I say, I own both the PS3 and 360, and I really like the PS3, but I prefer Microsoft’s console and the look of Xbox One.

This is a one-sided article; it’s an opinion piece and is designed to show why I think Xbox One will be the better machine in the long-run.

#31 thiswebsiteisballs on 06.16.13 at 12:30 pm

- only being able to trade in games at certain places IS OBVIOUSLY FANTASTIC
-ermahgerd dualshock 4 sucks? personal PREFERENCE
-xbox live is more expensive and no free games or bonuses. HOW IS THAT BETTER
-”we’d rather pay more money” hahaha WOW. that just sums up the ‘article’.
-out earlier? what a great reason to buy it
-I would have thought the ‘more expensive aston martin’ would be more powerful than the ‘cheap mercedes’, no?

#32 JD on 06.16.13 at 12:43 pm

in response to your points I offer these counter points.

1. the letting 10 of your friends play your game library sounds good. Playstation has the option that you can hand the controls over to a friend mid game if you want though. (Sounds like you get to let your friend play your library also here)oh, and they didnt limit it to 10 of your friends, they said a friend meaning any of them.
+point Playstation 4

2. The playstation hardware does not require an internet connection. you can play any game that does not require the internet for information to play at any time. once 24hrs is up, xbone does not work anymore. for me online checkins wouldnt be a problem. for my friend it would kill it for him. he sucks at paying the bills, his internet/tv gets shut off every few months he plays video games for a few days when this happens. not with the Xbone he wont.
+Point playstation 4

3. you cant predict problems, no, like the stock market past performance doesnt indicate future gains. but past performance does leave a bad taste in your mouth, either way this isnt a point as both consoles can suffer questionable manufacturing / quality controls.
no points awarded

4. As someone else stated, this is for their firmware. not their software. None of their policies have changed and everything is status quo for the playstaion. Xbox is going to get royalties paid to the publisher cutting into the profits and value of your exchange. This for me is a non issue for either system as I never re-sell my games. although I have given away a couple and untill Xbone “finalizes” their policy on giving away a game I wouldnt be able to do that.
+point playstation 4

5. Its a complete opinion here, and based on your comments you like me havent laid a hand on the xbone controller. all a matter of preference, but I have read several comments that the PS controller has come a long way and seems to be winning over several xbox faithful. none of that matters as it is simply opinion only. I wish both companies would let you use either controller on either system personally and everyone could be happy.
no points awarded

6. You being willing to pay more money for a system is not a valid argument here. For 499 you get an xbone one controller and kinect. you still have to pay for a game, and live. out the door we will say 600. with PS4 you can buy the system, PS+, and 3 games for the same price. * no one really wants kinect why pay for an eyetoy when you might only use it one time.
no points awarded, if your willing to pay for stuff that doesnt matter great!

7. opinion personally I am dying to play killzone, but I would love to play titanfall as well. 99% will always be cross platform.
No points awarded.

8. Match making never really worked for me, but this is software within the games themselves and has nothing to do with the system. PS4 has the same DVR capabilities, which one is better remains to be seen. I was never a trophy boy, but whatever Xbox live v PS + meh, they are on par with each other. although PS+ offers actual value in the games and discounts it gives all the time. SNAP… I only do one thing at a time, there isnt a point in talking to my friends watching tv and trying to play a game at the same time.

there are plenty of more features to PS4, you didnt bother looking. as for the headset xbox required a special headset, playstation could use any bluetooth headset you had lying around the house. (which I had plenty all the time for some reason)
no points awarded

9. xbone will be out earlier? maybe, but we dont exactly know that yet.
no point untill official launch date given

10. DLC not a big deal really, if none of your friends can get it then does it matter you have to wait a few weeks, and it is never several months, it is closer to one month. the publishers dont want to wait that long to milk us gamers for that 4.99 every time they make a map pak. but you get a point for this one.
+point xbone

11. no big brother is not watching you, and MS is not going to share the data with third parties… have you heard about PRISM lately?? they cant share it with third parties, but if the NSA wants, they can take that data. The device is connected, and people are going to break into it eventually it is like a plate of cookies for hackers, and mommy just went into the other room. Likely hood of it happening is slim, but the chance is still there.
-point for xbone.

12. they will not drop the 24 hour check-in, they will always require a checkin on their system, you should be happy they got rid of the every 10 minutes that it used to be. SONY WILL NOT ADD THIS REQUIREMENT.
+point Playstation 4

So by my tally:
Playstation 4
Xbox none

#33 HAHAHA on 06.16.13 at 1:41 pm

I can’t get over how stupid this list is.

#34 unicronic on 06.16.13 at 2:56 pm

Whilst I respect your opinion, I think some of your points are stretching things a bit.

#2 saying PS4 may require an online connection is like saying the world may end tomorrow. It is pure speculation. Destiny requiring an always on connection is something gamers will be aware of when they grab it off the shelf. With PS4 you have the choice to be offline if you want, with Xbox you don’t. Also there are plenty of places in the world that still don’t get a decent standard of internet or internet at all, this includes the USA.

#4 regarding game ownership is pushing it a bit far. Those terms are more about IP protection than anything else. Bottom line is that I own the game regardless of the T&C, I’ll certainly own it long enough to extract my value for money out of it and that is the critical issue.

#6 Comparing Xbox Live with PS+ is a non issue. PS+ offer far great value than XBL. Just compare the investment into the respective schemes and the tangible savings or value derived. Technically online with PS4 is still free as if you’re a PS+ subscriber it becomes part of that at launch.

The biggest no-no for XBone is that the potentially enticing proposition of being able to switch between different content (music, games, movies etc), being able to watch real sports and fantasy sports integrate and look at tv schedules will get less and less achievable the further away from the USA the XBone goes due to convoluted content licensing issues.

Certainly by the time XBone gets the Asia I’ll be surprised if anything but the games are available, Asia is PlayStation’s turf too.

I certainly won’t disagree that E3 is just a big hype train, many things could happen between now and launch.

Something to remember is that Sony have more experience and pedigree in this market too. PS3, despite launching a year later, has caught up with Xbox360. They’ve got a strong 1st party studio network too.

Let us also toss out of the window the notion that sales means everything regarding games themselves. If volume of sales directly correlated to quality then McDonald’s is fine dining and Coca Cola is like a fine wine.

#35 Gingerprince on 06.16.13 at 3:08 pm

I`ve owned an Xbox and xbox 360.
I watched the PS4 launch several weeks ago and thought this system looks good – in terms of power – and video uploading.
I then watched the xbox one launch several weeks ago and was slightly worried with the lack of games shown and the over interest in the media side of the device.
I was at this point leaning towards the PS4.

I then watched the E3 launch of the xbox one.This is where I think the games really started to shine. Both 1st party and 3rd party offerings were looking very good.
I was quite suprised at the price point at £429 (UK) .I was expecting about £300 – £350.

I then watched the E3 launch of the PS4. A good selection of 3rd party games (as per xbox) and a fair selection of first party games. The £349 price point was probably where I was originaly expecting the price point based on the more expensive PS3 launch price.

Now I`ve had several days to digest the news.
My conclusions are:

1) Xbox price point – a fair price in reflection considering its a games machine,Bluray player,PVR and includes the more powerful Kinect system as standard.

2) PS4 is more powerful on paper but this is only part of the story. All that hardware advantage can be lost if the API software is not efficient. I think here Microsofts direct X will have the edge and close the gap.
Third party games will look almost identical.

3) Online play was invented for consoles by Microsoft and are way ahead of the PSN and I don`t see that changing

4) The investment in cloud computing by both parties is good. However I think microsoft with their deep pockets will move ahead in this area – just look at the number of servers that MS will have at their disposal – 300,000 globaly as apposed to 15,000 on current gen.

5) Microsoft have a release time (November). Sony is a more vague Xmas launch. To me that means Xbox One`s out up to 1 month before PS4 – plenty of time for good word of mouth to spread.

I have changed my mind 5 times over the past 2 months but I have reached my own personal conclusion. I am sticking to what I have lived with for over a decade now. Xbox hasn`t let me down yet and I don`t see it happening this time round.

Xbox One here I come!

#36 Gamer2013 on 06.16.13 at 5:04 pm

Hmm, Xbox and ps4 sold out on amazon quickly, people will have both, everyone I know is getting both, mostly I see a lot of ps4 fans freaking out about all of this, they really just seem like fanboys trying to make everyone not buy the Xbox. Also, if you have problems with the Xbox Internet and other things the you feel will be an issue, then getting any console should be the last thing on your mind, get a decent job before you start buying luxury items

#37 Jewy McJew on 06.16.13 at 7:59 pm

I appreciate what MS is trying to do with disc-less play. There are lots of little advantages (like cross-game play request, instant changing, sharing, etc..) but its so difficult to explain, no one is buying it. We can only see the downside.

Besides that, they bet badly on memory technology and as a result, have a more complex cpu with worse performance than PS4. Not their fault, that was just bad luck.

MS is in deep trouble. I think they should delay launch by a year, take the billion dollar write-down, and re-tool.

#38 Jack on 06.16.13 at 8:42 pm

The main difference between Sony and Microsoft is, that while designing features of new console, Sony was focusing on developers and gamers, while Microsoft – on publishers and other “content owners”… What should (and probably will) be better for customers is not hard to predict…

#39 you're an idiot on 06.16.13 at 8:47 pm

Change the title to “Xbot Rant” please its a much better title given the content of the article.

#40 THE TRUTH on 06.16.13 at 9:17 pm

This is the worst writing I have seen in a long time…

Firstly, The fact that you mentioned PS3 Exclusives without mentioning The God of war, Uncharted, and Grand Tourishmo franchises is the hight of FANBOYISM and blindness! Those are the BIGGEST franchises on the PS3 and two offered the BEST GAMES OF THIS GENERATION on consoles!(GOW3 AND UNCHARTED 2)
Not to mention the Infamous series, the Little Big Planet Series, and Planetside 2! DC Universe etc etc…

Secondly, The XBOX ONE Does NOT come wit a headset AND the console requires NEW HEADSETS! Thats because of a new part required to connect with the Console. All pc headsets, all Astros, Trittons , no longer work on the new consul!

Thirdly… XBOX CHARGES A FEE FOR ALL USED GAMES to be played online.. THATS NOT THE PUBLISHER CHARGING THAT FEE! ITS XBOX ONLINE ITSELF! Publishers get NOTHING!

Fourth… Nobody cares about XBOX getting DLC FIRST because that gives us a chance to see if they are worth buying! Also COD is dead and boring so nobody cares about Infinity ward DLC!

And lastly on price…PS4 is basically free due to the Free to play games you get… Dust 514, DC Universe Online, Warframe, Driveclub, Blacklight Retrobution, Planetside 2 And one free game every Month with Playstation Plus. Not to mention Playstation has the BEST exclusives with the Highest rated IPs Like GOW, Uncharted, Infamous, LBP, The Last Of Us & New IPs like The Order, Beyond 2 Souls, Agent, DeepDown, And the most indie Delelopers. All with Better Graphics, a Lower price, & no DRM? Its a no Brainer!

#41 gladwin on 06.16.13 at 9:55 pm

This is a great article stating the benefits of the new Xbox console. It was not a fanboy piece at all.

#42 Ice Kold Killa on 06.16.13 at 10:16 pm

I agree 100% with #3 (Albert)’s comment. He says exactly what I think of this article. Here I came thinking Sony was hiding something from us but it’s just a Xbox fanboy trying to be “non-biased” when seeing the facts. Yeah right. This guy even says one reason is the controller and how Sony’s doesn’t feel right or something with the analogs. I can adapt with both and even N64. If I can, so can you. Stop being such a … (not gonna say it) and learn. So you go and try to play and say “oh I can’t play like this, fuck it I don’t like PS3″. Maybe you don’t but it sounds like that to me. I think both controllers (XB1 and PS4) are very similar now so I don’t really care if I bought a PS4 and had to use a XB1 controller. I like both. Maybe one of the few things I like or am ok with on the XB1. These corporations already butt-fuck us enough to have M$ rape us from behind while telling us they will. On top of that they said they aren’t gonna change anything after Sony’s E3 conference. I hate them even more now. I hope XB1 fails and the company stops making consoles and that way it leaves an open spot for someone new to come take place or maybe even SEGA :)

#43 THE SALT on 06.16.13 at 10:25 pm

To the OP great article…

Let me just say upfront the PS1 was the greatest console that opened new dimensions in game development with many of the top FRANCHISES in history Tomb Raider FF7 Res Evil Tekken Gran Turismo Colin Mcrae Driver all leading the way and still influencing games today in their respective genres.

However i made change to OGxbox based on the exclusives in Halo Rocky & Kelly Slaters surfing that my mate had when he lent his box one weekend. 3mths later i was still hooked and bought my own.

At the time PS2 had 83% market share OGxbox 12% with more exclusives MS had to battle uphill to gain acceptance. They did this thru their online XBL service and limited exclusives they had were often more mature darker stylised violence/shooters ie Western influence (US/EURO) vs Eastern (Japanese) JRPG Anime influenced and overly long cutscenes.

As xbox grew in Nth America so too did the eSports communities and multi player growth/uptake of XBL transition to the 360 was based on this potential to play games as a competitive sport and for those like me real skill evolution over predictability and limitations of AI was the new era of social interaction and peer comparisons within genres

Western content was winning the single player games, multiplayer FPS was dominating/influencing the markets, new icons emerged in Master Chief and Marcus (GOW) compared to? exactly…

In terms of multiplayer / social experiences enjoyed 360 had better controllers [BANG] especially for FPS better online / chat capabilities [BANG] and larger hardcore competitive communities better organised and significantly more skillful [YOUR DEAD]

This upcoming gen the PS4 is a nice unit but a safe almost boring next gen vision. I want them to succeed. Helping this which is hardly mentioned but extremely important when comparing is regionfree – this will/should translate into cheaper games for owners. If you want a single player/offline / strange content exclusives that focus on adventure/action type games that will have all 3rd party blockbusters then this is for you. No arguments.

However if youre into your eSports FPS and shared media options and social interaction experiences across what i believe will continue to have the best exclusives range / blockbusters new TITANFALL and returning like HALO using the best controller for gaming on planet by a mile AND then expanding upon this with far better recording streaming and video interfacing options for the media savy requirements that have evolved socially and corporately alongside the larger more skilled XBL competitive communities that interact with YOUTUBE / TWITCH.TV and cross communication of platforms via skype ie talkn to mate on his PC from my XBL/console then this as it is for me is most definately the next gen experience for you

II THE SALT
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FOUNDER OF AUSTRALIAS BF3 XBL eSPORTS COMMUNITY
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#44 Matt on 06.16.13 at 10:37 pm

“We own both the 360 and PS3 and are not biased towards one or the other”

You have got to be kidding me, this is blatant ‘fanboyism’ at it’s worst!!!

#45 Axe99 on 06.16.13 at 10:41 pm

@ Dom – well adjusted, that title. No worries this as an opinion piece, as you can be as slanted as you like (and, imo, you’re deffo stretching the truth a bit, but that’s you’re prerogative). The XB1 still looks like it’s a good piece of kit, and I have no doubt early-adopter XB1ers will have fun, but I also have no doubt they’ll have a narrower range of games (may well not be an issue, Xbox360 ‘core’ crowd is more casual and narrower in focus) and pay a higher price for it. Given their more casual nature, I doubt they’ll worry about their relatively weaker piece of hardware either, so hopefully everyone will be happy :) (ie, core gamers more on PS4 with a more powerful machine and broader range of games, casual gamers more on XB1 with the Hollywood blockbusters).

#46 Brian on 06.16.13 at 10:43 pm

How much did Microsoft pay for this steaming pile of crap? My opinion is your site sucks. You’re in Microsoft’s pocket. All Playstation gamers should boycott all sites that post this kind of crap.

#47 Sam on 06.16.13 at 10:59 pm

Interesting piece, but I’m still going to pick up a PS4 first.

#48 pyomn on 06.16.13 at 11:27 pm

Xbox One edges PS4 on the exclusives front
@@@

Whaat? author of this bollocks is smoking weeeeed

#49 cody on 06.16.13 at 11:28 pm

can you be more of a fanboy…

after i read that ps4 is causing destiny to be always on i just laughed…

Destiny my friend is a ONLINE ONLY game…morons like the author of this article are the reason that so many people are misinformed when it comes to games….GG idiot and i hope the door hits you on the ass on your way out.

#50 bucky167 on 06.16.13 at 11:30 pm

ps4 will live longer than xboxone,microsoft you guys killed your selfs with the bull,sell that crap to kids under 5yrs old,they wont care,but we gamers do and you guys have treated us with no respect,so i welcome ps4 this year.

#51 Alex Miller on 06.16.13 at 11:35 pm

fix the exclusives. xbone will be getting ff games, and kh3 with other ones too.

#52 Zane on 06.16.13 at 11:41 pm

Nice try.

It is funny how brand bias is able to cloud peoples judgement, and make them twist facts in their minds to preserve their existing emotional attachments.

The facts are:
-The xbox one GPU is 33% less powerful than the ps4. (1.2 terflops vs 1.84)

-There is a used game fee that retailers (and therefore consumers once it is passed through to them by higher prices) will have to pay. On top of this there are restrictions to game ownership and playing on friends accounts etc.

-there IS a requirement to be online on the xbox one to license your games. No such requirements exists on the ps4. Stating there “may” be, is just making things up for the sake of it, and it really betrays your bias.

-The dual shock 4 controller is rechargeable, has a touch pad, has six axis motion control, and has a light bar for tracking. Fine if you think the xbox pad is more comfortable in your hands, however the ps4 controller is clearly technically superior and much better value.

-You are forced into paying a higher price, because the xbox one comes with kinect. Surely it would be better to have the option – many people have no interest in kinect. Higher price for a console which is a lot less powerful.

I have owned most consoles since the nineties, nintendo, sega, microsoft, sony (yep, i’m old and have money). But this is the first time I am thinking I will skip one, and not pick up an xbox one. I don’t see the point in having another box under my tv if it is not ever going to get turned on.

#53 Eduardo on 06.17.13 at 12:20 am

when i see this at N4g it thought WOW huge number of reasons, some of that might be good ^^

nah you fail bad with this man, are you working for M$?
Word is that they know one sucks than pay good money to a lot of human\bots to try and defend theirs crap console.

sad sad sad.

#54 IcyEyes on 06.17.13 at 1:04 am

You, my dear Dom, win.

#55 THE SALT on 06.17.13 at 1:13 am

Dont mean to nerdbait but since when has PSN gamers ever been considered more hardcore gamers? Your competitive eSport communities are sub-par in all areas.

When BF2MC was ported/up to XBL 360 it was one of the rare comp communities that supported PS2 and OGxbox players onto the one platform in a game that had dedicated in game clan support/ladders

- the PS2 top teams were competitive had some great players but on the whole ate shit and made little impact. Due to the control scheme changing to support PS2 load outs with the up/port they did bring innovation like knee sliding in gunbattles that wasnt present on OGxbox which changed the game as it spread in popularity due to effectiveness in reducing hit detection in battles but they also brought over how to overload drop servers/force timed out glitch when they lost clan matches.

Now move forward to BFBC2 the top PS3 team took on the top XBL team in exhibition match – the XBL team won every game spawn trapped them and won by over 200tickets each match – demolished them.

Not that this is surprising at all – its common knowledge PSN is full of noobs and casual gamers that somehow always manage to mention God of War Enchanted and Final Fantasy but GT vs Forza maybe once upon a time. The amount of Enchanted owners whose PS3 sits there gathering dust or used as a BluRay player as they spend all their time playing 360 and enjoying XBL multiplayer is a common reality – ive heard the war stories many times its always the same “my PS3 is a bluray player” or it was the only way i could convince my missus to let me get a games machine as PS3 had bluray” and more common than you think.

Again fail to draw hardcore comparisons – just as i struggle how Sonys E3 line up was seen as a win for hardcore gamers? You could take all those E3 games launching on PSN and still not get close to hype/anticipation of Titanfall or the timing of XBONE closer to BF4 launch OCT 29th

People hate on the Kinnect but Dead Rising has already incorporated it into their game development – if you make too much background noise the zombies will hear this and react towards the sound – that like Forza 5 using the cloud to learn your racing pattern for truer competition against friends who are offline than AI as well as competing in events for you whilst youre asleep etc are two examples of REAL NEXT GEN DEVELOPMENTS already finding their way into XBONE exclusives

The PS4 or should i say PS3.5 is nice I get it but much of the E3 hype was manufactured by GAMESTOP employees and retail industry cheering louder and influencing negative XBONE sentiment to E3 guests at every opportunity. When you have as much money tied up in profits from used games as these guys do then naturally any perceived threats to this will generate protectionist measures and biased accounts of Sony winning E3 with that yawn worthy line up for casual gamers at a conference thats meant to be about games was one of the most sly sheep hearding influences by retail forces ive ever seen working on the hearts and minds of the weak and easily lead –

Sorry fanboys but nothing hardcore in your exclusives at all – everything else about PS4 is solid except the most important thing THE GAMES.

If your eSports communities were more advanced and of skillset id be inclined to agree with you but they are not – to fabricate myths XBONE is for casual gamers because of the inbuilt upspec’d Kinnect may have something to do with the inferior investment Sony put into its aptly named eye toy that youre comparing it to and the connotations it brings is a dis-service when they only did so initially to win customers compete with Nintendo. MS have taken the application visual/audio input incorporated into design far more seriously as will developers now that its fixed technology

#56 Blaze Blue on 06.17.13 at 7:12 am

All of you damn Sony fanboys and girls I have a question for you all, are you being paid to bash Xbox one? You guys are really obviously don’t and never did had any good wishes for them. I will be sitting back and watching you guys get hit with reality when Sony follow suit.

#57 Escopablobar on 06.17.13 at 8:51 am

You are clearly an Xbox zealot and by all means that is your right. I consider myself to be platform agnostic. I have concurrently enjoyed competing hardware and exclusive software across multiple generations to date. But alas I do have a slight bias that I shall not elaborate upon. Bias tends to mire sound judgement in illogic. As a gamer and a consumer I refuse to let my bias steer me towards the illogical decision that threatens the way I have played games for the last 25 years. Right now X1 is the illogical decision. I will not draft an exhaustive diatribe on why because it would serve futile and little purpose here. I only ask you to step away from your petty allegiance and consider where this path takes us. Envisage a future where corporations continue to infringe upon what few rights we have as consumers. There is nothing vanguard or forward facing about MSFT’s aspirations. Be pragmatic for once and realize that what you give up today you may never get back.

#58 Counterproductive on 06.17.13 at 5:56 pm

#XboxDoneSonyWon
#dealwithit

#59 Axe99 on 06.17.13 at 11:14 pm

@ THE SALT – for a start, there’s a lot more to gaming than the ‘hardcore’ crew who spend all their life on arcade shooters (that arcade shooters are the new hardcore is mildly amusing as well – hell, that shooters, one of the more easy-to-get into genres, are considered ‘hardcore’ in the sense you’re pushing it just shows how casual gaming has become. This is not a bad thing, but talking down at the ‘non-hardcore’ when the ‘hardcore’ are busy playing casual twitch-shooters is lolsworthy). It also varies by country – in the US, the 360 has the better competitive scene (no surprise), in Australia and Europe it’s the PS3, in the UK it’s 360 and so on. Not surprisingly, you’ll see the strength of the competitive scene reflects the size of the install base.

Anyways, thing that ticks me off most at your comment is the implicit suggestion that ‘hardcore’ gamers are inherently more worthy gamers than other folk (again, all the while playing your casual, twitch shooters!) There’s nothing wrong with spending all your time perfecting your drop-shotting, or jumping out of jets in BF3, but that makes you no more a worthy gamer than the dad playing Toy Story 3 with his kids, or the mates chilling out and playing Super Smash Bros. Call of Duty, Halo and Battlefield are big because of their casual appeal, not because they are hardcore (indeed, games that truly are hardcore won’t be big sellers, because they’re actually, you know, hardcore). The broad base of gamers, not hardcore by any definition, are what supports the industry – if your narrow, ego-centric bashing alienates them, you only make gaming a lesser hobby.

On the by, what’s Enchanted? I’ve played a lot of PC, PS3 and 360 (and plenty on previous consoles) and I’ve never heard of it? I’d've thought you ‘hardcore’ gamers would at the very least be up to speed with the games available on each system ;).

#60 Ricoloco on 06.18.13 at 1:36 am

I will buy a Xbox ONE because of games like Halo, Fable, Forza, Gears, Alan Wake, Quantum Break, KI, Kingdom Hearts 3, Destiny, Dead Rising 3… I like Kinect.

I even doubt if Sony can release PS4 in this year.

In the beginning of this generation they said that PS3 was more powerful than Xbox 360, later it was proved a lie. I only believe in finished games, not in propaganda.

#61 Axe99 on 06.18.13 at 4:42 am

@ Ricoloco – there’s not an objective gaming journalist who doesn’t recognise the technical advantage (realised in numerous first-party games) of the PS3 this gen. It was far from a lie. The X360 was also a great console, but there’s no doubt the most technically capable/powerful console in this gen was the PS3.

The XB1 is still a great piece of kit, and it’s not even overpriced if you like Kinect – get it and enjoy it, and have fun – all gamers should have fun, there’s really never been a better time to be a gamer – but don’t let emotional attachment blind you to truths, or you’re only limiting how much fun you can have ;).

#62 Ricoloco on 06.18.13 at 5:53 am

@ Axe99 – Forget the journalists, think for yourself. They say a lot of bullshit, sometimes they take money, it’s part of marketing. I recommend you to test Halo 4, Forza 3, Forza 4, Horizon, Gears of Wars 2,3, Judgment… even the first game is still impressive. I tested a lot of PS3 games, some look great, but not better than the ones in XBox 360. There is a huge difference between art direction and processing power. Halo 4 have a lot of make up, but also have some technical achievements that i cannot see on PS3.

Crysis 2 and 3 are one of the best looking console games and are multi.

One day i’ll buy a PS4. My priority is the XBox ONE.

#63 Wow..Pathetic on 06.18.13 at 11:41 pm

Look at all these insecure sony fans.. the guy never said it was facts, although they all do make good points, and sorry to burst your bubble sony fans but ps controllers are garbage, stop trying to shit on other peoples opinions with your average console ,which really doesn`t even have any cool new features, “sleep mode” lmao fuck outta here

#64 Dom Sacco on 06.20.13 at 10:33 pm

Like I stated in point 12, Xbox One’s features were subject to change. Microsoft has now scrapped its online restrictions and used game requirements for Xbox One. http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update

#65 Axe99 on 06.20.13 at 11:37 pm

@ Ricoloco – I’ve got both a 360 and PS3 – picked up a 360 at the start of the year to catch-up on the exclusives I’d missed (while I don’t like MS as a company, I have nothing against all the fine devs that make 360 exclusives) – something that now MS has stepped down from it’s ridiculous position (a good thing for everyone, but particularly those that are starting with an XB1 :)) I’ll do this gen as well (I don’t have the coin to sensibly pick up both consoles at the start of each gen).

And it’s been fun, but it’s also clear that:
- Actual gameplay in Forza is incredibly over-rated – it’s another NFS:Shift imo – a good but not great game, albeit with great menus/structure and loading times. Handling is pretty good, but AI is a mess – it’s got far, far too much rubber banding to call the thing a sim racer – I went from first to eight to first again in one five-lap race, that’s not a sim. Visually, it’s a clear step down from GT5, although it’s far more consistent (ie, the best of GT5 smokes Forza, but then you’ll also see pixelated textures on the standard cars, and sub-par smoke effects).
- Gears and Halo are both great, quality AAA shooters. Only played Halo 3 and Gears 1/2 so far (pacing it out) – for their time, they weren’t on par technically with the PS3 exclusives at the time (Resistance was stronger than Gears, Uncharted was stronger than Gears 2), and Halo 3 was great fun but technically incredibly weak for a AAA shooter – I’m not a graphics floozy so I’ll comfortably recommend it, but I’m very surprised it got cut the slack it did.

I look forward to playing Halo 4 (going to go through ODST and Reach first), and won’t cast final judgement on the 360′s tech, but haven’t seen anything on the 360 that comes close to Uncharted 2 or 3, let alone The Last of Us. As far as I’ve heard, Halo 4 is the 360′s technical showcase, but if I’ve missed anything deffo interested :).

Crysis 2 was good, but not as visually impressive as KZ3, UC3 or TLOU. Gameplay was only solid imo, so haven’t got around to picking up Crysis 3 yet (I like arcade shooters, but I also like a lot of other stuff, and adjusting to getting lots of PS+ swag, so haven’t forked out for it yet).

So far on Xbox, been most impressed by Fable series – not technically, but in terms of quality and originality of game – hopefully they step back from ‘Fable Heroes’ and ‘The Journey’ and put together a proper Fable 4.

Either way, if a gamer can’t have fun on either machine, they’re not a gamer, and I have no doubt it’ll be the same next-gen – the XB1 has some great games on the horizon. There are differences in the approaches to the exclusives on both platforms, which is why I’ll always go Playstation first each gen, but now that MS have found their sanity I’ll pick up an XB1 sometime when it’s a quiet patch on PS4. Both the 360 and PS3 were great, just because the PS3 had a tech edge doesn’t make the 360 bad by any stretch, and it’ll be the same story with the PS4/XB1.

#66 Ricoloco on 06.21.13 at 2:57 am

Axe99 – You wrote:
“Forza is incredibly over-rated – it’s another NFS:Shift imo – a good but not great game, albeit with great menus/structure and loading times. Handling is pretty good, but AI is a mess – it’s got far, far too much rubber banding to call the thing a sim racer – I went from first to eight to first again in one five-lap race, that’s not a sim. Visually, it’s a clear step down from GT5, although it’s far more consistent (ie, the best of GT5 smokes Forza, but then you’ll also see pixelated textures on the standard cars, and sub-par smoke effects).”

Are you serious? GT5, that game have 800 PS2 cars, fake shadows, 2D trees… Your journalists prefer Forza. Nothing in PS3 can touch the Technical advancements of Forza 4.
Forza 4 have a better perfomance too. Look at this image comparison:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-16-forza-motorsport-4-gran-turismo-5-comparison-gallery-comparison-gallery

Resistance better than Gears? Not even close. Sorry, but have my doubts if you really played these games. I can’t go ahead with this.

I’ll let in this dreamworld.

#67 Axe99 on 06.21.13 at 11:50 am

@ Ricolo – look me up on Raptr (Axe99), PSN (Axe99) or XBL (Axey99) if you don’t believe me. I only got up to the fifth year of Forza’s career – it was incredibly easy, very rarely wasn’t in front of the field by the end of the first lap, playing with most assists off. Rubber-banding was also terrible for a sim. It was more exciting if you wanted an arcade racer, but GT5 did sim racing better. Unfortunately, most gaming journalists don’t actually know a lot about motorsports. Not saying GT5′s AI is perfect, it’s got a lot of issues and a heap of room for improvement, but at least the game felt like actual motor-racing, rather than a videogame. Of course, if you’re looking for a more arcadey slant but with a dash of sim, then Forza’s a much better game – just depends what you want.

Also – with the Eurogamer gallery, did you look at the images in full resolution? Forza looks better at 720p, GT5 at 1080p (not perfect 1080p, but a damn site better resolution than Forza). I’ve played both on the same screen both over HDMI one after the other – Forza’s visuals are noticeably lower resolution, and the lighting noticeably less dynamic – things you can’t really pick from screenshots (MS is _very_ good at making screenshots from Forza look better than the real thing). Forza still looks nice, but it doesn’t compare to the _best_ of GT5. As I mentioned above, Forza is more consistent, and much better than the _worst_ of GT5 – but that’s just Polyphony being lazy with assets – technically, when it wants to be, GT5 is by far the more stronger game. Not surprising, however, as it’s on the stronger system.

And I’m talking about the first Gears here. Gears of War 2 is excellent, but Gears of War 1 was technically a fair step down, the pacing was erratic and the story was incredibly poorly told. AI was excellent, easily the standout of the first game – and had the edge on Resistance’s AI – but overall technically I’d rate the first Resistance above the first Gears. I didn’t say story (that’s a matter of personal preference, although in this particular example Resistance wins because unlike the first Gears it has a story, lol).

Do you have a PS3? It’s pretty much impossible to get a good idea of how the systems stack up through looking at the internet (Halo 3 looks a lot better in screenshots than it does IRL, for example) – having both, they’re both great, but there’s no question which is more powerful.

Of course, my PC smokes both of them ;).

#68 Thomas Evans on 06.21.13 at 4:06 pm

1- Has nothing to do with PS4 – No change
2- Not true – No change
3- You can’t predict problems for either so why would that be a plus over Playstation for Xbox? – No change
4- Ownership rights are the same. If not described differently… – No change
5- It’s a question of taste. Neither are ‘better’ than the other… – No change
6- Xbox Console is more expensive then Playstation console. Xbox controller is more expensive then Playstation controller. Xbox network more expensive then Playstation network. +3 for Playstation
7- Both have exclusives. Neither has more than the other. – No change (+3 for Playstation)
8- Features are roughly the same – No change – Headset now included bearing in mind quality was better generally with the PS3. Meanwhole Xbox not including headset with the pack. +1 Playstation (+4 for Playstation)
9- “Probably” isn’t a argument. Will likely be released at the same time. If not Sony will probably use the added time to make sure there aren’t any glitches. In other words Sony customers won’t mind waiting for a better product. No change (+4 for Playstation)
10- ” Probably” and “potentially” wow this article is really getting desperate now… Nothing confirmed… – No change (+4 for Playstation)
11- Makes no difference to Playstation console compared to Xbox console. No change (+4 for Playstation)
12- Will say it again. Applies to both consoles so makes no difference. No change (+4 for Playstation)

Playstation 4 ~ 4 – 0 ~ Xbox 1

#69 Ricoloco on 06.22.13 at 1:27 am

Axe99 – Now the journalist aren’t enough? I show you the pictures with huge differences in quality between two games, GT5 and Forza 4, if you still believe that GT5 have the best graphics, and best driving simulator, ok, i can live with that, it’s your opinion. The journalists do not share with you…

Resistance Vs Gears, again, me and your precious journalists do not share with your opinion. It’s clear to me the winner here.
Story, it’s a personal choice. I think that the two games have a good story.

As a fan of Playstation(you have to be) i understand your opinion.

I sold my PS3 in the beginning of 2011, and sold my Xbox in the beginning of the 2012, but i bought other XBox 2 months later until now with me. I’m close to finish Halo 4 for the fifth time.

I respect your opinion, as you saw i do not agree with you. No problem.

I recommend you to play Halo 4. I will try The Last of Us in the PS3 of my friend.

#70 Axe99 on 06.22.13 at 1:03 pm

@ Ricolo – Don’t worry, I’ve got Halo 4 on the shelf and am looking forward to it, and am enjoying the last act of Gears 2 at the moment. Was only talking about the technical aspects of the games as well – they’re all good games, and I should have mentioned I thought Forza was over-rated as a sim, not as a game – it’s a better ‘game’ than GT, it’s just not as good a sim (and I prefer my racers as sims, or arcade, and not so much the half-way house that Forza sits at). As for the shots, Forza looks better in the thumbnails, but if you look at them in full resolution GT5′s extra clarity, in my opinion, gives it the edge. They’re both great, and the real difference between the two is in AI – some prefer Forza’s more arcade take, some prefer the focus on more sim-style racing in GT. Neither is better/worse, just personal preference :). As for the best driving simulator, my understanding (although I’ve never played it) is that iRacing on PC has the edge, will have to check it out one of these days, but haven’t got around to finding/installing the drivers for my wheel for PC.

I do agree I have a soft spot for Playstation – they’ve just been the most consistent platform for the kind of games I enjoy for three console generations in a row – but I do enjoy playing great games wherever they pop up, and I’m definitely enjoying catching up on the 360′s exclusives. I’m happy that the PS3 was my ‘main machine’ this gen, but I’m also very glad I didn’t miss out on Halo, Gears and Fable.

Good chatting with you, and deffo recommend TLOU – haven’t played it yet m’self (am avoiding spoilers carefully!) but have a few mates that have that swear by it. While I think the above article stretches the plusses for the XB1, I want every gamer to enjoy gaming and the last thing I want is for the XB1 to fail – titles like Project Spark, Forza and Titanfall all look great. Whichever system(s) you go for, have a good one :).

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#75 lerty on 07.27.13 at 10:27 pm

once again with the playstation bashing cant we just agree xbox is for you hardcore gamer nerds prob like the person who wrote this and ps4 is for more casual players.

#76 Axe99 on 07.27.13 at 11:33 pm

@ Lerty – there are ‘casual’ and ‘core’ gamers on both, but given the 360′s focus (arcade shooters and arcade racers, Minecraft, the Kinect crowd) I’d argue that the Xbox crowd tend more towards casual gaming than the Playstation. Whether this holds true next-gen or not, the library of the XB1 is starting off more casual again (Ryse is clearly an ‘accessible’ game – looks great, but hardly looks deep – while on PS4 you’ll have the likes of War Thunder and Planetside 2, games that are far more ‘core’ than anything on XB1).

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#79 BARRELS180 on 08.09.13 at 11:16 am

with all the changes microsoft made, ( no region locks, No limit on games, one internet usage on setup, and the kinect not having to be on), The xbox one is the better choice

#80 leignheart on 08.16.13 at 7:57 pm

holy crap man, these guys calling the article writer a fanboy? look at your own comments you sony troglodytes. omg i have never seen such hypocrisy, i cant believe the amount of devotion to a company who couldnt care if you live or die as long as you die after you buy thier console, your all pathetic. and as far as this guy being a fanboy, clearly he isnt, he laid out his opinions and said he likes the xbox one more, that doesnt make a fanboy. the situation is simple for anyone who isnt a lifeless fanboy, if you cant afford both consoles, then you pick the console that has the games that fit you and your family most. damn, you dont have sex with the console, it doesnt deserve the devotion you freaks of nature give it. just pathetic. im sick of this damn generation.

#81 Davidson on 08.18.13 at 4:18 pm

People will believe anything that’s hyped up to this day, they don’t give things chance to play out or come out on the shelve, sure PS4 won at E3 but it didn’t win the war.
At the end people might regret falling for what Sony played out and who’s fault is at the end?

#82 Liquid_Ocelot on 08.18.13 at 4:27 pm

I’ve always been a fan of Sony and Playstation 4 looks much better not bwing a fan boy because I loved xbox 360 as much as PS3 it’s a tie with me because some games feel better on different systems even if not exclusive but the only diffrence here is the fact that on xbox one you don’t have to press 2 buttons on your remote, sadly me being to lazy to press two buttons on my remote isn’t worth 100$ more sadly.

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#84 Jim88gd3015 on 08.19.13 at 5:22 pm

Fact is Xbox 360, there are more people who own it than a ps3, quality is far better than Sony and always will be, ps3 comes out 2 1/2 years after first Xbox 360 did and still couldn’t compete, ps4 will be no better good luck morons sticking with the company who lost your credit card and personal info

#85 Axe99 on 08.19.13 at 11:17 pm

@Jim88gd3015 – your comment is just plain wrong. The 360′s hardware issues are the worst on record of any major console. In terms of quality, over it’s lifespan, the 360 was atrocious. PS3 released 1 year after the 360, and has now outsold it worldwide – so it has out-competed the 360, and the 360 has also been a target of hackers and phishers, although its longest outage was 2 weeks so not as bad as the PSN hack.

The sad shame, though, is that both ‘sides’ have people following them that completely ignore the facts. Both consoles were great (I own both of them) and both have their strengths and weaknesses. The 360 was a stronger platform for casual shooters and socialising online, the PS3 was a stronger platform for hardcore shooters and a broader variety of games, both are excellent gaming platforms.

#86 mike on 09.05.13 at 6:02 pm

now xbox has removed the restrictions for drm they cant have massive sales like steam because a few idots dont read up on facts before they comment plus now it does not require 24 hour online and kinect does not need to be plugged in also with every console you get fifa 14 which is 40 pound free i say xbox has the upper hand

#87 Matt on 10.24.13 at 4:54 pm

Convenient that he forgot to mention Gran Turismo 5, MLB The Show, God of War, and Metal Gear Solid 5 as PS4 exclusives.

Xbox has an edge? get real. Halo 5 is the only remotely interesting game and it’s not even made by Bungie anymore.

#88 ned on 10.28.13 at 9:05 pm

The Xbox One I have pre ordered comes with a headset in the box (clearly stated).Hope it stays that way as you guys say it isnt so in number 8 “features”

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